Olympic Scandal & Sky-High Innovations | August 5, 2024

Paul Rossi (00:00) Welcome to weekly wings, your go -to podcast from DroneLife .com sponsored by insert your name here. No sponsor. If you're interested in sponsoring the show, reach out. Got a wonderful episode today. How you doing Samuel, Terry? Change things up there. You guys, you know, can't mess that Samuel S (00:22) Yeah, keep us on our toes, huh? Terry Neff (00:22) Can't mess that up. I'm doing great. Thank you for asking, Paul. Paul Rossi (00:28) Yeah, yeah, you, Samuel. Either of you French, French, French, French Olympics, Olympics kicked Samuel S (00:28) doing no. Terry Neff (00:34) French? Samuel S (00:37) I've been trying to loosely keep up with that. It's been kind cool to Terry Neff (00:41) You know, Samuel said he was a bad American not too long ago because he hasn't been keeping up with it when I brought it up, so. Paul Rossi (00:48) Well, it's like if you look at the metal, you know, if you keep up with the metal count, it's like we're always on top, but it's not like like you look at that gold number and then you see like total metals and we're just like collecting up a ton of bronze. Terry Neff (00:48) Are you a bad American? Yeah, well, we filled up the boat. I don't know if any other country did that. Paul Rossi (01:05) Yeah, hundreds, right? Hundreds, hundreds of folks. Showing up to France, we have the Olympics going on. I was thinking about it, I was like, are they gonna have drone racing in the Olympics in like four years or eight years? But it seems to be, as I was thinking about this, was like, know, it is strange because... It typically just seems to be like an athlete. You you think back to the Olympics. It's like the individual athlete that's doing the The sport, you know bouncing the ball swimming in the pool NASCAR is not an Olympic sport, right? You're in the car and even then you're in the car. It seems kind of athletic this racing, you know, you're sitting in a chair, but then you know what I watched dressage You guys have any, you know what that is? I think I'm pronouncing it right. Dressage, dressage. It's when the horse like prances and trots and like, so how is that different than racing a car or a drone if you're sitting on a horse and the horse Samuel S (01:52) I'm sorry, that's... No, Terry Neff (01:54) No, what stresses? Samuel S (02:12) There has to be some like, historical significance to this, right? Paul Rossi (02:16) And then it goes back to, well, people have been doing dressage. you know, since the Olympics were founded. there's Snoop Terry Neff (02:23) Well, I think they're going to in the next Olympics, they're going to be doing e -sports. So yeah, they might as well let drones in. Paul Rossi (02:29) Are they? See, well, that very well opens the door. Here we go. So Snoop Dogg has been at the Olympics. So if you really haven't paid any attention to the Olympics, then you would, you you might not know Snoop Dogg has made a splash at the Olympics along with Martha Stewart. And it looks like they were looks like Snoop Dogg here was. Samuel S (02:54) duo. Paul Rossi (02:57) Fully fully dressed. look at this. The two of them together. Old Martha Stewart and. Terry Neff (02:57) my lord. Fly as hell. Paul Rossi (03:09) That's weird to say she was, I think, accused of racism or something. So anyway, the saga of Martha Stewart continues. But back, yeah, yeah, back. So here, the horse, the whole get up. So you're on the horse and then the horse prances around. I don't know if there's video of it. Samuel S (03:14) turn come up in Paul Rossi (03:31) Yeah, we definitely get some. Samuel S (03:31) Why was Mar - did we know why Martha Stewart was on the horse? She wasn't competing. Paul Rossi (03:38) No, no, Martha Stewart was not on the on the Martha Stewart was not on that horse. No, she was just wearing, donning the same outfit that team. Yeah, she was donning the team USA outfit. So here we go. Entering the arena. Samuel S (03:38) I guess I thought I saw a photo of her on the horse. Okay. That would have been quite the story. Terry Neff (04:01) in a very nice arena. Paul Rossi (04:03) come to the center here and now this horse is just... No different than All right, there we go, here we go, the sideways. Here we go, you guys seen the, look at this. That horse is going for that horse is like going sideways. Terry Neff (04:29) Wow, very impressive. Paul Rossi (04:37) backwards. So horse going backwards, but it's just this really fancy horse, you know, goes on. Now this is dressage. if this is in the Olympics, why not? Terry Neff (04:37) it's going backwards. Paul Rossi (04:53) Why not drone racing, right? But with that, somebody did decide to bring their drone to the Olympics, didn't Canada. The Canada's Olympic women's soccer team is Samuel S (05:11) don't know if can blame the entire country for Canada, the Canadian team here. We can, we're gonna blame. Terry Neff (05:17) no we can no we can we can definitely do Paul Rossi (05:21) Team Canada, all of them. See, they're all on the screen right now. Well, that's probably not all of them. mean, the coach, everyone in Canada. Well, I don't know. mean, I've heard that they take their drones seriously and they're doing some stuff up there. I mean, Samuel, you're probably familiar with all the Canadian regulations. Terry Neff (05:27) That's everybody in Canada right there. Samuel S (05:45) know a bit more than I ever thought I would, that's for sure. Paul Rossi (05:52) Yeah, there you go. Yeah, your Canadian certification, Samuel. So it looks like the Canadian coach or not the Drone was being flown in this situation over another team. New Zealand's soccer team noticed a drone flying above their practice in Paris. So we got DroneGate at the Olympics live in real time with potentially some emails having gone back and forth. So this story gets pretty interesting. How do you guys feel about using drones to not just help your team get better, but an eye in the sky in order to see the competition? Terry Neff (06:56) Well, I mean, it's a sport. Anybody will use anything to get ahead. And a sport and drones are just another tool we can use to do that. mean, cheating has always existed, and it always will. I mean they solved this very quick, I wonder if he just gave up. Just like yeah, here's my emails, I did it, banned me, get it over with. Samuel S (07:19) contact info. Terry Neff (07:23) Here's my contact info, here's my login, just get this over with. Samuel S (07:24) Here's a business card. Paul Rossi (07:28) Yeah, emails discovered, folks losing appeals. The Canadian soccer team is Certainly gonna be having to deal with this for for the fallout of this for for some Terry Neff (07:48) I mean, I don't know what you can exactly get. I don't watch soccer, never really played soccer. mean, maybe like their formations that they're practicing. I just, don't see like, it's not like you have like voice recordings of what they're gonna do. It's just like you're just watching them, I don't know. Paul Rossi (08:07) It's some good old what, New England Patriots, right? Terry Neff (08:11) Well, what if we just like went into the stands and just watched them play? Is that illegal? I don't know. Paul Rossi (08:21) Yeah, yeah, it's certainly interesting, but I was looking at, know, to look at that medal count and you kind of think they're these countries, this happens, you know, every four years for a summer Olympics and you have this board that goes up and traditionally you're used to just seeing, you know, individual people's names and then the flag next to them. And you kind of look at this and you see It's the actual country itself. And then for that sport, you know, if someone's going to take a medal in a certain sport, you'd think, Hey, the government that that's going to open the door for development of that in that country. you know, potential for the individuals on either the individual or the team, the players on the team that's going to, you know, open lots of doors, for in country advertisements, just monetary things. the stakes are certainly, certainly really high. But we've also gotten to the point where I think so much is happening. There's so many events that... each one, you don't even know when it's happening and then the time difference. it's a really interesting, I think, experience the Olympics overall. Pretty interesting. Hey, just to make a transition here, it's like these people can get drones out. This is how readily available this technology is. Is you have folks. in Paris using it to try to get an upper hand on their competition. But meanwhile, a lot of news has come out regarding drones at the Trump rally. So article comes out in DroneLife and published pretty much everywhere. It's that all these hearings that have been happening, the drone point is being hit so much harder from at least what I've seen in like the last two, three days or just over the past previous week with senators, politicians, just everyone across the board really trying to understand why was a drone not used in this situation. And then the fact that, you know, we really see that there was a local agency that the Secret Service the use of an unmanned aircraft system in order to increase the security at this event and the Secret Service repeatedly declined offers from those local agencies. And then meanwhile, what we've also heard from the FBI director was they were trying to get their counter UAS system up and running. But due to cellular, I can't remember the exact terms because of like cellular congestion or bandwidth issues, they weren't able to get the counter UAS system working. Which makes no sense to me because if you have a drone detection system. Why would it need cellular? bandwidth connectivity. I mean, you set it up, you plug it in, you give it power, you define your area of coverage, and then that's it. If you want to push that information out to the cloud and other folks, then yes, you would need cellular connectivity, but to be able to locally detect UAS operations, if this individual is able to fly their DJI drone, there's really no reason from what I'm hearing and understanding the Secret Service counter UAS system couldn't have been deployed. And then repeatedly denying my only thought here is their federal agency, the local police have a DJI drone. They're looking at that drone and they're saying, no, we don't want to be associated with a DJI drone because could you imagine if the drone went up and flew and nothing happened and people photographed it, you're going to have this whole. slew of articles coming out where it's like, these drones are bad and yet the Secret Service is using Samuel S (13:00) have some potential bad PR. Terry Neff (13:02) well i think this Well, I don't think it's that. think it's just a coulda, woulda, shoulda moment. just, I mean, it was a massive, they had some incompetence during this event. They were probably just lazy. Didn't want to fill out the paperwork involved to get these drones up and get the radar up for the drone. They probably just didn't want to do it because it was too much work. I mean, if you look at how this went down, all in all it was incompetence. I don't think it had been bad PR. I don't think anybody really cares about that. Paul Rossi (13:42) Yeah, you're right. So legally they'd have to file for authorization because of a temporary flight restriction. Everything I understand is just because you're a federal agency doesn't mean you wouldn't have to still submit for that documentation. What are your thoughts here Samuel? Counter UAS having drones available? it? Samuel S (14:10) I don't even necessarily know if it's just about all the paperwork, but it's also just like, again, I think it kind of circles back to, they know like kind of how to, do they have the training to set up an automated flight router where they have to be on sticks the whole time and just kind of like, I don't know what the level of expertise is there. mean, surely it's not super hard to pick it up and just use it, but then you're dedicating a whole person to completely be eyes on hands on. Paul Rossi (14:11) Relevant. What do you think? Do you think? Samuel S (14:38) and maybe potential other people watching him do it, a part of the UAS team, as opposed to having someone with a lot of experience doing it and doing it super well, automated and I don't know, that's kind of my thoughts though. And kind of the expertise level. Paul Rossi (14:57) Yeah, the system that's appropriate for this area. A tethered drone, you know, potentially that no one had to manually operate with unlimited power, you know, supply would have, you know, could have worked out well. Was that readily available? Probably not. Having a drone that you have on some pre -planned and having the ability and understanding to do that. Not that it's hard, These are, you know, government agency. The counter UAS thing is what I think is a huge piece, but it sounded like from most recent conversations, they're like, we're going to light a fire under, you know, we need to get drones integrated into this now. And it just makes you think like, wow, you're hearing this from the director of the FBI or the secret. Secret Service saying like, you know, we're going to put all of our focus on this and like, what does that mean? You're going to put like, like eight people are all of a sudden going to figure out like how to do something that you should have really been figuring out. This isn't new. This is not new technology, especially when there's handfuls of American companies that are trying to survive and sell their products. And you've got one of biggest agencies in the US that be a customer who's like, you know what? Yeah, we're gonna go all in on drones now. Now that the American people has questioned us, we're all in on drones. fun times. This looks like an airplane photo we've been having shared here. But it's also interesting. I don't know if anyone saw before we can move on to the next topic is the angles that they started to show like in the more videos like there is a lot more of those creepy videos where you can see the dudes going across the roof line. You see his head popping up and down and you're like. That's crazy. It almost. A week ago, I wanted to try to consume as many videos as I could and try to act like an AI computer. And I was like, I'm going to find what someone else couldn't. Well, clearly people have been doing that. But the 3D modeling where you actually see the counter snipers may not have really had a certainly clear view. And people are calling each other out now. It's like, no, the locals should have been standing in that window. but they had no way to communicate to each other. Pretty crazy stuff there, Samuel. Terry Neff (17:49) camera just cut out. Sorry, I'll try to get that fixed for you guys. Paul Rossi (17:53) I that, technical difficulties. Bringing in an interesting tech piece, technology, UAS, this is a Swiss system that researchers have developed. It's a perching drone, but not with your traditional perching sit. you know, on top of it is a drone with hugging wings. It hugs like a tree. And so for the folks viewing, you know, here on video on YouTube, you know, what you're seeing right now is basically a side -by -side image of the drone on the right here. and an owl on the left -hand side. And so this group of folks in Switzerland looked at an owl and how an owl is able to take its wings and wrap them around a tree in order to perch. And they have applied that to a fixed wing drone system. Samuel S (19:20) Kind of want to put some googly eyes on the drone. Terry Neff (19:20) Paul, when you were a kid, did you have these When you were a kid, Paul, did you have these like wrists like their bracelets that you would slap onto your wrist and they're just kind of curve around your wrist? This is all this is reminding me of is just those. It's the same process. Yeah. Paul Rossi (19:39) Yes, snap. I think it's like a snap band or snap bracelet and. Some people would take him. I think they had some metal ones and like just try to smack you as hard as they could. Terry Neff (19:51) Yeah. I could see a lot of purposes for this drum. Paul Rossi (19:54) That is. Samuel S (19:54) it has those Paul Rossi (19:59) Go ahead, Samuel. Samuel S (19:59) It has claws, wrapping arms, and adhesive pads. They went all out on this design. And you can kind of see from the diagram you have that pulled up. It's pretty thorough with it. It looks like the... I was going to say the neck of the drone or the... I don't know what to say. Part four, it actually doesn't look like it's completely aligned when it hits to the next thing it actually snaps into place I don't know if that's like a fish hook type thing Paul Rossi (20:37) Yeah, flies it's like it pretty much flies straight toward the tree and then increases that angle of attack. And has that upturned nose is what they're referring to it as. Detachable. Terry Neff (20:53) which is basically a It's like a rubber nose that just smacks into it. That's only purpose of it. Paul Rossi (21:01) And then claws and then on the underside of the. Samuel S (21:01) All trees successfully perched. go ahead, Paul. Paul Rossi (21:07) I'm saying the claws on the bottom of the wings, has like you said, like fish hook. So it wraps and then gravity might pull it down a little, but as gravity causes it to go toward the base of the tree, it's going to really sink those hooks Terry Neff (21:29) Well, I wouldn't compare it to a fishhook. I would say more like a cat's tongue or almost like a piece of sandpaper. mean, you think that's going to dig into whatever material it's on. It's like a high grit sandpaper. And then you use the bottom of the tail to kind of stay on. Or like one side of the Velcro, like the hard plastic piece. It just kind of self applies to rough objects. Samuel S (21:43) like velcro. Paul Rossi (21:57) Yeah, it is. Samuel S (21:57) Pretty impressive though, says the impact speeds of 3 to 5 meters per second. That's kind of crazy. Paul Rossi (22:14) Yeah, it's it is. Terry Neff (22:15) It's probably pretty hard to pilot into a tree, huh? It doesn't look like it's too big. You can't put on like two masses of a tree yet. So you have to like kind of pilot it into a six inch tree. Sounds a little tough. Paul Rossi (22:28) Gecko. And it's gecko inspired, so it has that perch capability like like the owl with that wrapping. Capability, but then as we've discussed what they're comparing that to is like a gecko. That design that you were kind of saying, Terry, like a cat's tongue like that's inspired from a gecko where They're making the overall surface itself almost adhesive and then giving it that textured. surface that allows it to really just hook onto that tree. So not entirely sure. This is one of those interesting things that this kind of technology or idea or patent could be built into a future system or some kind of defense system or something that's really a specific use case. Terry Neff (23:36) Well, one potential use I could see for it is making temporary security cameras for the Trump rally potentially. mean, that could have happened. could fly it into a tree, have a camera on its back, it can just, you know, I mean, it's like a drone that, I don't know, it's just my thought process. I mean, like, you can use it for security applications, temporary, or you could even make it more permanent. So like you fly it into a tree, instead of sending somebody up there to screw it in and just drills it in itself. I don't know. Paul Rossi (24:05) Or if it's pre -perched there and then it's waiting, so if something happens, could like, again, it can readily deploy, it's blended in, you don't necessarily. Terry Neff (24:15) Yeah, that would definitely need a lot more engineering to get that to happen. That is a good idea. That would be pretty sick. Paul Rossi (24:21) Just make it look like the owl and it'll be like, look at that how that's perched on that water tower over there. With the with the googly eyes, but like one that's like falling off kind Terry Neff (24:28) It's it's weirdly hugging a water tower. What's going on? Samuel S (24:29) or without the googly us. I gotta deceive. Paul Rossi (24:39) man. Terry Neff (24:40) And who made this? Is it like a college or is it just like a company? Paul Rossi (24:41) This. I see it was Swiss researchers. I would have to go back and look. I can't recall if they named specific like University. Into Samuel S (24:51) the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. Paul Rossi (24:55) This just speaks volumes to the fact that Switzerland is this hotbed for this development of drone technology and advanced technology. Goodness, another international location that, Samuel, you've been to Switzerland, right? You're a Canadian pilot. Terry Neff (24:56) Get on them. Samuel S (25:16) It's kind of funny because it's specifically saying Lausanne, which is the exact place. Paul Rossi (25:22) Is it nice? Is there trees there? Samuel S (25:25) yeah, it's absolutely beautiful. mean, all the parts I got to visit were breathtaking. that's a great place to fly a drone. especially with Lake Geneva right there. Paul Rossi (25:36) it's Yeah, I certainly have to get there sometime. So what do we got next here, Samuel? Samuel S (25:43) Yeah, I brought this story up. popped up in my algorithm once more. have drone light shows. It is kind of doing some PR celebrating the release of Deadpool Wolverine Deadpool 3. I'm not sure what everyone's calling it, but it is. They got some really talented folks together. I believe. What is the drone count say on that video, Paul? I believe it's like 2500 drones. Paul Rossi (25:44) Okay. Samuel S (26:12) should say in the description below. had that link it's quite a few drones and they do some really cool stuff with it right now we have a video pulled up and FPV drone is flying near the light show and basically light show is this is in downtown San Diego over the weekend they had the nerd Mecca the nerd convention comic -con so they went ahead and put on the show to kind of do some PR with Deadpool Wolverine And looks really cool to be honest. They have all these different characters. have just all these These cool callbacks, I would say. Terry Neff (26:56) That was pretty sick. Paul Rossi (27:02) That's pyro that's drone pyro. That's the fan. Isn't that the fantastic four? Samuel S (27:02) Just insane work. Yeah, yeah. And I myself haven't seen the movie yet, but I can imagine knowing Marvel, all these names that are popping up are probably in the movie. Terry Neff (27:10) Kinda in the new movie. Paul Rossi (27:18) Do sky element. This is. Terry Neff (27:20) And this is a world record for the US. I could have swore there's a company that did like 4 ,000 runs. We talked about them a while back. Paul Rossi (27:27) This is US. was overseas, it was like 5 ,000 something something. This is the biggest in the US, hands down. This is insane. Samuel S (27:41) That pyro kinda really sold the effect. Terry Neff (27:42) Whoever thought of the pyro for the Fantastic Four really outdid themselves. Samuel S (27:50) Just thinking Johnny Storm. Paul Rossi (27:50) And this is the company, Terry, did that did the eagle. For for sky elements, they're the ones that have the drones with the pyro on it in the United States. Sky holy shit. Terry Neff (27:57) okay. They've been busy, huh? Samuel S (28:06) I was gonna say I looked up their YouTube after seeing this video and there's quite a few videos in there that piqued my interest. Terry Neff (28:16) Whoever made that, them a raise. That's amazing. Paul Rossi (28:21) The light, way it's the drones are there and then the light like I can't get over this and then the guy and then the F the guy or girl that did the FPV shot as this was like in real time. Like to capture that. That's insane. Like we've talked. We've talked about light shows, but not like this at all. Go ahead, Terry. Samuel S (28:33) Don't mess Terry Neff (28:40) all I can think of. Sorry, God. Samuel S (28:45) this Terry Neff (28:47) All I can think of is somehow using that to make like a Doctor Strange portal for a new Marvel movie that would be coming out. Like just imagine his portal opening up and then having him come through it. They have to do that one day, right? After doing that. That's perfect. What's happening there? was that? Samuel S (29:11) They look sick. mean, those listening, have Deadpool. I would say he's what, like a hundred feet tall or so. And he's just pulling out his swords, but it's all completely animated. All these outlines, fireworks going off, different colors. Terry Neff (29:22) I would say more than 100 feet tall. Looks like an intern film this from the Fox 5 San Diego's building. Just with their iPhone through the dirty window. Paul Rossi (29:44) This is like one of their cameras that's just sitting on top of a building that they usually show and like, it's sunny today. It's just always seeing. This is crazy. It looks like bombs are going off. When the fireworks go off down there, it looks like bombs are going off and it looks like you were saying, you could incorporate this technology into the movie and it looks That looks like some bombs are coming in. And you could. Samuel S (30:18) think that was actually a plot point for Spider -Man and No Way Home? Is that the one? Which one? Is it Spider -Man Far From Home? Terry Neff (30:18) Well, they did have drones. Yep. It was far from Hamas, the one with the multiverse. He used drones kind of like to make like almost like a projector illusion of the world he was in. I don't know how to explain it to you, Paul Rossi (30:39) Holy cow. Like this is crazy. Samuel S (30:40) is I wonder if they had like, pre -made panels or what, because these are some really dynamic poses for the characters. Terry Neff (30:55) And while we're hitting on the drones in movies, Twister had drones. They had a drone that they used. So drones are slowly getting more spotlight. Samuel S (31:00) really? Like, was the drone itself a character or was it like an implementation in the making of the movie? Or both? Paul Rossi (31:08) Yeah, that is, Terry Neff (31:14) One of the characters flew drones to watch the tornadoes. So it was like a fixed wing drone. I think they also, I've seen a few like bigger matrices, but yeah. Paul Rossi (31:25) Like even just the explosions, because think of like like to add that without having to use CGI or the ability to make the CGI so much more realistic because you're layering like real explosive. Terry Neff (31:42) well why would you use that when you could pay somebody twenty dollars to make it in cgi sorry that was a bad joke Paul Rossi (31:49) I don't know, because you can, I guess. Terry Neff (31:55) Something something CGI right like a maker strike. I don't know animators Paul Rossi (31:58) Yeah, this that was. That was epic and the number of drones that they laid out like when they showed it in Terry Neff (32:10) It filled up the entire field. It looked amazing. Samuel S (32:15) Kinda weird since this is a backwards video. I'm assuming they just got it on the wrong side. Paul Rossi (32:15) Yeah, yeah, the whole field. Yeah. the amount of people that were setting it up, the time that goes into this, and then they got good weather, right? everything kind of comes together. Because that's the only thing I could think of. You plan this out, you get all these drones, and then you kind of just cross your fingers. And I didn't notice if they had, during the opening ceremony of the Olympics, which was extremely awkward and weird, if anybody happened to watch the opening ceremony, it... I didn't notice if there was any drones or not actually in the Olympics. Samuel S (33:02) a lot of pyrotechnics. Paul Rossi (33:03) Yes. But then again, it was raining. I think now that I remember, was pretty poor weather. I think they were getting drone video. I think they didn't use drones, if I do recall. I think there was aerial video. They might have had a couple of drones from the broadcasting side, but nothing from a show standpoint. Our next kind of topic here, we're going to cover sky safe wins contract to enhance border security with drone detection technology. And I know this is this is something that's Terry's probably. all in favor of drones at the border, right Terry? Terry Neff (33:44) That's crazy. That's a crazy. That's something crazy to throw on me like that. mean, Paul Rossi (33:49) I don't know. Well, and then the other thing is, but remember, it's not just drone use. What if you just want to what if you want to catch the bad guys drones? Right. Terry Neff (33:53) Trying to get me cancelled, Bad guys. I mean, it's going to be my personal opinion on it. I mean, it's great to have, I mean, most of the stuff that's coming in, they're not moving that small of quantity into the US. They're moving more than 20 pounds at a time. Paul Rossi (34:12) come on though, you got to recon ahead. got to, you know, what did... And so this is for drone detection capability. So we're enhancing the border with drone, you know, leading SkySafe, a leading counter UAS drone detection is bringing their counter UAS technology to the border in order to enhance it. So, yes. Terry Neff (34:19) just make yourself more suspicious. Paul Rossi (34:39) They're not using small drones to do the thing, but aren't the small drones just like to go back to the Trump incident, know, small drones used in order to scout ahead, see what's going on, you know, nowhere you kind of can and can't go. Terry Neff (34:54) Did. Yeah, I mean, like I said, it's not completely useless. just for like smuggling reasons, like one of the things that it's not going to directly stop smuggling of anything. It's just going to make it slightly harder. then they got tunnels and then they kind of do whatever they want over there. Samuel S (35:23) kind of curious if they've already identified like key places that they want because I can imagine with the border being so massive like you're gonna have to choose very select places Terry Neff (35:33) Yeah, theoretically, Samuel S (35:36) What was that, Terry? Paul Rossi (35:37) yet. Terry Neff (35:40) Well, it's like they can't do anything to the drone when it's on the other side of the border. So it would have to cross the border. So technically they can get half of the border and then they can't do anything about it. They just know it's there. And you'd have to up the entire border with detection software or whatever. I don't know. Paul Rossi (35:57) But I think if, as I'm trying to think through this in real time, I think it's like the marijuana that's being brought over in most states or legalized recreational or medical use of marijuana and the ones that haven't, hell, it's there anyway because things have elevated to such significant levels like Right? Which we hear a lot about. You know, a small amount could... It could, small amounts of this are killing Americans. So you don't have to bring these huge... From what I'm understanding, and if you can do it consistently, even a, what, one or two or three pounds, four pounds is probably more before and then we forget like DJI just came out with the fly that drone can carry like fifty pounds. Technologies like moving rapidly. So I do agree that the border is massive and then little drones that are readily accessible aren't aren't really a concern. But when you think about these cartel folks and the amount of money they have, these are like, you know, they they have resources and they're and they're not like the Secret Service. no, we don't need your drones. They're like drones. Yeah. Can it go here? All right, we'll Terry Neff (37:09) I'm just Samuel S (37:36) Sign me Paul Rossi (37:38) 10. Yeah. Terry Neff (37:40) Well, it's like a modern day, what was his name, Pablo Escobar. I mean, he started using airplanes to get coke into the US. mean, now we're using drones to get it into the US. It's another aviation -related, I don't know, kind of headway into, I don't know. There'll be a Narcos episode on this in the near future. Look out for it. Paul Rossi (38:06) Well, if they're integrating this, if they're adding this technology and this contract's going out, it's because it's already happening. Because really, the government isn't just gonna throw money into, to a degree it will, like research or development, but at this point, they're like, no, we have this happening and we need something to combat And it's not that we can take it out because this system isn't going to shoot it down, drop it, take it out of the sky. They're tracking it. So they have people on the ground that don't know where anything, I'm in a border patrol truck and I'm, you know, how the hell hard is it for an individual to secure the big ass border? You know, here I am. Well, now what if they have some alert push notifications that alert them that it's like, hey, drone's been detected. Just. get to this area and then they're going to find the areas where they're dropping stuff because it's not like anywhere along the border is going to work. There's going to be specific areas that are going to meet this concealment cover efficiency. If you can start to figure out where those areas are, you just make it more difficult. Terry Neff (39:23) Yeah, it's all about just making it more difficult. Paul Rossi (39:27) That's like, just try to deter it. Deterrence, deterrence, deterrence. Because if you're trying to catch up on the ass and like, too many, like, way surpass the bad words is you're behind, right? When the people, when these folks are dead, they're found, older folks, know, these addicts, these folks that are just don't know what they're getting into because of what's getting pumped and pumped into here. So at least to try to be in the front side, put the cameras up, have this, put your perch and owls. Let's get a couple owl drones with googly eyes out there on the border. Do you see how this is all coming together? So if it sees it, just fly the owl drone out there. Have them ready to go. It's super exciting. And then I think you might see a point where... Terry Neff (40:05) I don't know if there's too many trees out there. Samuel S (40:08) Eyes on. Paul Rossi (40:22) Why don't we start to get some of these Acelon drone dogs on the border? don't we? But let's make them look like hyenas. Let's put some hyena robots on the border. Or remember how we talked about at the zoo, the bear looked like a robot? Let's just get some lions, man. Let's get some robot lions. Terry Neff (40:30) to harvest them for parts. Paul Rossi (40:52) Out there at pride a pack. What do they call them a grouping a collection? Terry Neff (40:56) They just, they just maul them to death if they cross the border. Mechanical, they just got like razor sharp teeth. Paul Rossi (41:03) man, that would be solid. Terry Neff (41:05) That would be solid. Paul Rossi (41:07) goodness. so, I guess, keeping on a security aspect or a geopolitical aspect of drones. It looks like last week we thought we had like, you know, two different views in the NDAA, but Our previous episode and now Senator Rick Scott of Florida has submitted an amendment to add the countering CCP drones act to the NDAA for the Senate version. What that means is if it was approved, basically this on this specific subject, the Senate and the House versions would read almost the Rick, Senator Rick Scott is from Florida. The act was first introduced by Senator Rick Scott, Marco Rubio and Tom Cotton. Marco Rubio being from Florida as well. Why is that really important? In the state of Florida, no public safety agencies, no government agencies are allowed to operate DJI drones. Terry Neff (42:10) That's not good news. Paul Rossi (42:39) So the state of Florida is one of the states in America that has actually already enacted legislation that prevents government entities from purchasing and operating TGI equipment. So it's like a state's rights thing. Like states can choose and do what they want. But you also have the federal level, which is what these people who've already got it at their own state, I believe Arkansas was another one that passed some legislation. They're trying to push what they see at their state on at the federal level. So it's just crazy because it's one of those things where you can have it either way if You know, some other hot topic, you can push it to the states and say, it's a state thing, it's a state thing. But that might not involve a country. For example, like abortion, is not, doesn't involve China. At least from what I understand. When you look at the use of DJI drones, they're involving the fact that this is manufactured in China. Well, and of course, it's not the countering DJI, it's the countering CCP drones act. So they're saying this is a threat. The CCP is a threat to Americans as a whole. And so at the federal level, these drones shouldn't be allowed for purchase. And so this is really depending on how you look at it, it's either good or DJI and Autel. So what they've added is identifying Chinese military companies, adding to restricted lists, DJI and Autel. First responder secure program. So they want to establish a program that will provide grants for public safety agencies to purchase or leasing secure small drones that are not made by foreign entities. Leasing drones, like a police department is going to lease a drone. this drone is so expensive. You can lease it. It's not a car. It's not a, this is, Samuel S (44:55) I bet for the public perception for nobody that knows about drones this sounds great though, you because I mean they're going to be making sure they don't have any Chinese drones in your airspace, not in America. Paul Rossi (45:12) And so this comes out and now the FBI has their whole team of people going, well, we need to get drones. All right, which one should we get? And they're looking at this and they're thinking, well, we can't buy any of these drones. They've got all these DHS, DOD, federal bans and requirements. they're like, well, we have to go buy these US company drones. And that's when reliability comes into play. And we've touched on this before. If you're baking something into your security pie, you need to know it tastes good all the time, not sometime. People don't like to eat bad pie, right? Samuel S (45:54) Not a pie that you pay for, no. Paul Rossi (45:56) Was it? Terry Neff (46:00) If it's free, who cares? Paul Rossi (46:02) Well, I'm telling you this American made drones are not free. Yeah, those are those are some of the the more expensive. You know, pieces of pie that you might ever buy, and in fact, you don't just buy a slice. It's like you got to buy the whole the whole thing and. But solutions exist. Samuel S (46:06) Yeah, there you Terry Neff (46:06) Hahaha Paul Rossi (46:29) I'm looking forward to getting out of a time period when we're going from week to week, like, it's not here. it's here. it's not here. Is it there? When is it? Is it this? Can it be that? If we can get to a point where it's just like, all right, if you're this, you can. If you're that, no, this isn't allowed. This is allowed. Because it would help us be able to. give people more straightforward answers instead of saying, this is what I think could happen. It's like, well, you know, even at the end of the day, I don't even care what I think might happen because I know that it's probably wrong. So I'm like, this is me in my head going, what do you ever think matters? what was so anyway, like I said, when we get to a point where we could just explain and lay out and have a little bit more clarity, we'll probably never get there. It'll be awesome. And I don't know if it has like maybe post -election and you know, where we'll be and then you say, well, post -election, it all depends on who gets elected because things are gonna go in, you know, who knows which direction depending on which individual is elected president. But next steps there is voting on, you know, going in front of The politicians reach out to them, talk to them. That's about the only thing folks could do at this point. What are you looking forward to? What's going to happen in the week to come if we could guess any news? don't know how someone could, not locally in the United States, can top that Drone Light Show. That'll be nuts. know globally it's already been done, but... Samuel S (48:33) was actually kind of interested to see what Sky Alamance does next because I mean how do you top what they do? Like they set their own personal bar in my opinion and not only their own personal but like a record in America so that's insane. What's next? Paul Rossi (48:50) There's a reason like I'm pretty sure that was the golden buzzer. I'm pretty sure Sky Omens was the America's Got Talent gold golden buzzer crew as well. So it really, it really, really makes sense. And every time they do something like this, like, can you imagine the amount of people who are like, I don't know if they're taking investors or the amount of money they added to their bank account after doing that show. But it really seems like if Terry Neff (49:13) interval. Paul Rossi (49:18) from the outside looking in, they're reinvesting back into the organization, which is what you really hear most startups do in your first five years. It's not so much about making money and saying, have all this money in the bank account because money sitting in a bank account is positive if you're retiring, but if you're trying to build and grow your business, you want to You know, use that money, buy more drones, do bigger shows. You you do a show, you do a show, you do a show, you take some of that money, you buy more drones, you do a bigger show, you do a bigger show, you do a bigger show, you take that money. And it just really seems like Sky Elements is just on this like, you know, hockey stick trajectory. So congratulations to them. And hopefully the weather continues to stay clear, because at this point, it seems That's the one big factor that's going to contribute to them not being able to deliver what people have come to expect from their organization. slap, slap. Yeah. know Terry, I, I, I know in the past you're not like a huge slap. I can't even say that. I slap. See, I didn't even say the whole word. Slap. And he already knows I'm going to say slap. Right. But, I don't know, Dana, Dana White seems to think he says this is the fastest growing thing, the most successful, growingly growing thing he's ever been. Part of really. Terry Neff (50:39) No. He's delusional. He's lost so much money that he is delusional. He's making up shit. Sorry. It's making up stuff. Yeah, because billions of people are saying how stupid it is. mean, it's, I'm sure their numbers aren't doing good anymore. I haven't seen anything about it, man. Paul Rossi (50:55) He says billions of billions of billions of views on the YouTube. He's just. Dude, dude, and he got that crazy Russian dude. Like anytime you typed in slap on YouTube, that guy would show up and it was like, look, I know people get into their magnet fishing and all this other stuff, but some of us, just like, we don't wanna have to sit there for like 90 minutes and watch a whole game. It's like just a couple slaps and we'll, instant. Terry Neff (51:18) that is Ukrainian. just brain rot dude Paul Rossi (51:37) instant gratification, but Dude, he that Siberian monster guy that was like a YouTube legend actually joined the slap league and he slapped somebody last month It's like no you're right like after you see this guy slap somebody like that should be not legal like that at least this guy like this guy's like way too good at this and He just put this, it was insane. If anyone hasn't heard of slap. Terry Neff (52:10) It's power slap. Don't go look at it. It's bad. I don't know what Paul's on about. Watch anything else. Go watch. What was the horse stuff? Dressage. Go watch dressage. An actual sport, you know, with skill. Paul Rossi (52:18) dressage. Samuel S (52:22) the equivalent. Paul Rossi (52:26) They gave me an idea. Power slap on Terry Neff (52:31) It's like a Lansing jousting jousting, with like just throwing hands on the back of a horse. Samuel S (52:31) Like jousting? Paul Rossi (52:40) Man, well. Samuel S (52:41) get a video of it on a drone. Paul Rossi (52:43) Yeah. Terry Neff (52:44) Does jousting still exist? Maybe to like an extent. Paul Rossi (52:50) They're in the movies. Samuel S (52:51) It's like medieval times. Terry Neff (52:53) Overhead jousting footage would be sick Paul Rossi (52:56) Yeah, no, there is like have you you got to isn't that called medieval times? I don't know if Samuel S (53:02) Yeah, well, that's a live performance. I don't know what safety measures they do, but I'm pretty sure they do jousting. Terry Neff (53:03) Medieval time, yeah, it's like a festival. I think they do it there. think at medieval time they do like night MMA that is actually fun to watch this is dudes and just dudes in like armor just beating the hell out of each other with dull swords Samuel S (53:18) full gear. Paul Rossi (53:19) No. So if there's something you never type in is car jitsu, right? Power slap. Terry Neff (53:26) you Samuel S (53:28) I've seen that one. Terry Neff (53:30) Jitsu's fire, right? Paul Rossi (53:31) is man i was just like power slap is here and then like hard jitsu is like is like down here it is just strange it is just strange the Terry Neff (53:38) No. I got my prediction, I'm sorry, I was thinking about it. My drone prediction for next week is somebody, I don't know if it's a hydrogen bomb or like a small nuclear bomb, but I know they made a small missile for one of the new jets that are coming out. It basically carries a small nuclear warhead of some sort and it doesn't have like two crazy of range and they're trying to justify that to use just like normally. without like dropping big nuclear bombs. yeah, so nuclear weapons will exist. It's just not as big as you think they will be. And I think they should put that on a drum. Sorry, I just rambled there. Evil scientists. Paul Rossi (54:21) Yeah, no, right on. We had a fantastic episode this week. We discussed the Olympics, some drone usage at the Olympics that wasn't necessarily authorized in order to get a little bit of a competitive advantage. we'll see where that leaves Team Canada, a women's soccer team. And as Terry said, we can't blame the whole Canadian soccer team, but they're certain we can and they're certainly being being dragged into it here. So there's quite a few just controversial topics. You know, you can't have this many countries coming together, this many people without there being just, you know, some stories. And we we also dove a little bit into Terry Neff (54:56) No, we can. Paul Rossi (55:20) how the politicians and the public is just really questioning the use of drones in order to help secure VIP figures, political events, and things of that nature. Not just the flying of the drones, but also the counter -UAS systems. The ability to detect a drone operating within a quarter mile, half a mile, one mile range. That technology is readily available. Private industries are purchasing it and installing it on regular basis. Government prisons, police departments, things like that, they're implementing this. Stadiums, right? We have sporting stadiums that have counter US detection systems. So the reason that we can't have those technologies integrated into our our highest organizations of security. It really is somewhat unfathomable. On the tech spotlight side, we looked at the Swiss hugging drone using that ability to of perch. It'll be interesting to see how that technological capability is adapted and integrated into future UAS systems like Terry kind of dropped a bomb there, not a hydrogen one, the idea of like, you could have a camera, you could put up a temporary security or Overwatch system that could be deployed and then picked up in a really hasty environment or a hasty situation. Touched on the drone light show that was associated with Comic -Con, absolutely amazing Sky Element drone. So I think that's also a success. story really excited for Samuel. They continue to be bringing us what their developments are. Samuel, you got to follow them on social media. You got to stay on top of what they're doing. all right. We looked at SkySafe winning a contract. Again, staying on that counter UAS and drone detection, using this at the border. So again, this technology exists. We're implementing at the border. We're using it to keep Samuel S (57:14) Who says I'm not? Paul Rossi (57:31) We're keeping our community safe. Putting this deterrent and detection system at the border is going to prevent this crap, fentanyl, drugs, criminals, right? From getting to where they shouldn't be. So that's really exciting and really neat to see. And we should be taking that same technology and using it in other areas and aspects of of our daily lives here in the United States to make us safe. And then finally, we touched on the fact that Senator Rick Scott introduces the amendment into the NDAA that covers the same language as the Countering CCP Drones Act that we saw in the House. So, still doesn't leave us with any sure answers or clarity as far as which... way things are going to go. it's information anyway. So as always, really appreciate everybody tuning in. Appreciate your time and attention. Hope that you gained some insight and knowledge from the conversations that we had today. Weekly Wings, DroneLife .com podcast. Again, really, really another exciting episode. And I was thinking, I think this is like episode 13 or something like, man, we've been doing this for what, at least three months now. 14, episode 14. Thank you, Terry. So we've been doing this for at least three months and it's awesome. I look forward to continue doing it because just from week to week, being able to dive into these different stories, it's, you know, I'm learning a little bit and enjoy. Terry Neff (58:57) episode 14. Paul Rossi (59:17) sharing this time with you guys and getting your input and insights here. And again, thank you to all of our listeners who are continuing to tune in. We appreciate your time and your input. So thank you, everybody. Thank you, Terry. Thank you, Samuel. We will see everybody next week.